‘Messy’ transitions and ocean warming studies

Latest episode of ESG Out Loud debates net-zero aspirations and learns about the Orchestra project

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Natasha Turner

In this episode of the ESG Out Loud podcast, we share the first panel from the Global ESG Summit, where participants warned delegates sustainable transitions will be “messy”, but said this would be “fine” as long as they educate themselves on the impact on portfolios.

Paul Udall, portfolio manager for the Climate Transition Fund, Lombard Odier;
Nachu Chockalingam, senior credit portfolio manager, Federated Hermes;
Tom Caddick, head of investments, NedGroup; and Stephanie Maier, member of the ClimateAction100+ Global Steering Committee and global head of sustainable and impact investment, GAM Investments, discuss net-zero targets, measurement methodologies and adaptation.

See also: – Global ESG Summit: Embrace the complexities of the transition

In her closing remarks, Maier told delegates to “embrace the detail and complexities” of the transition. “We know the urgency but we also know it is not straightforward,” she said.

“There will be difficult conversations and judgements to be made. It will be a messy transition and we need to get ready for that. But it’s fine, we need to make those significant changes and understand what that means for our portfolios.”

Later on in this episode we hear the next instalment from our chat with oceanographer and climate scientist Dr Emma Boland, this time explaining the British Antarctic Survey’s ‘Orchestra’ project.

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